Comments on: Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann: Rebellion Perfected? http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann-rebellion-perfected/ Wed, 16 Sep 2009 06:59:46 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: [8] Serendipity Notion « “lelangiric” http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann-rebellion-perfected/#comment-10220 [8] Serendipity Notion « “lelangiric” Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:20:13 +0000 http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/?p=83#comment-10220 [...] it’s widely used around the blogosphere. Another analogy I saw the use of the stencil in this post. Both the “lens” and “stencil” imply that only a portion of meaning is [...] [...] it’s widely used around the blogosphere. Another analogy I saw the use of the stencil in this post. Both the “lens” and “stencil” imply that only a portion of meaning is [...]

]]> By: “lelangiric” » test http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann-rebellion-perfected/#comment-9566 “lelangiric” » test Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:20:15 +0000 http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/?p=83#comment-9566 [...] since it’s widely used around the blogosphere. Another analogy I saw the use of the stencil in this post. Both the “lens” and “stencil” imply that only a portion of meaning is taken out – and [...] [...] since it’s widely used around the blogosphere. Another analogy I saw the use of the stencil in this post. Both the “lens” and “stencil” imply that only a portion of meaning is taken out – and [...]

]]> By: Serendipity in our semiosis, serendipity in our hermeneutics: The Abundance of Meaning Part 2 « “Lelangiric”, or so they say… http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann-rebellion-perfected/#comment-8781 Serendipity in our semiosis, serendipity in our hermeneutics: The Abundance of Meaning Part 2 « “Lelangiric”, or so they say… Sat, 10 May 2008 21:25:27 +0000 http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/?p=83#comment-8781 [...] since it’s widely used around the blogosphere. Another analogy I saw the use of the stencil in this post. Both the “lens” and “stencil” imply that only a portion of meaning is taken out – and [...] [...] since it’s widely used around the blogosphere. Another analogy I saw the use of the stencil in this post. Both the “lens” and “stencil” imply that only a portion of meaning is taken out – and [...]

]]> By: iniksbane http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann-rebellion-perfected/#comment-356 iniksbane Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:31:43 +0000 http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/?p=83#comment-356 Oh James Joyce... from hell's heart I stab at thee. Sorry. Just had a "Portrait" flashback Oh James Joyce… from hell’s heart I stab at thee.

Sorry. Just had a “Portrait” flashback

]]> By: animanachronism http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann-rebellion-perfected/#comment-354 animanachronism Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:35:01 +0000 http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/?p=83#comment-354 <em>PL</em> isn't going to be to everyone's taste - in much the same way that I've been studiously avoiding Joyce (so far with success): I dislike prose in general and Joyce is supposed to the novel form's <em>Evangelion</em> (intentionally meaningless confusion). But if it floats your boat . . . PL isn’t going to be to everyone’s taste – in much the same way that I’ve been studiously avoiding Joyce (so far with success): I dislike prose in general and Joyce is supposed to the novel form’s Evangelion (intentionally meaningless confusion). But if it floats your boat . . .

]]> By: Michael http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann-rebellion-perfected/#comment-351 Michael Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:13:36 +0000 http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/?p=83#comment-351 No offense, IKnight, but man ... I got bored with Paradise Lost. I'll try the monomyth in Finnegans Wake, though, but without the Joseph Campbell Skeleton Key. :) :D No offense, IKnight, but man … I got bored with Paradise Lost.

I’ll try the monomyth in Finnegans Wake, though, but without the Joseph Campbell Skeleton Key. :)

:D

]]> By: animanachronism http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann-rebellion-perfected/#comment-344 animanachronism Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:23:16 +0000 http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/?p=83#comment-344 The original intention was to demonstrate that pretentious <em>Geass</em>tards can be pretentious about <em>TTGL</em> too. I'm sorry if my use of 'thesis' misled you, but everything before the numbered sections was sort of a sideshow - acknowledging your own fine essay and mentioning in passing why I dislike the Hero's Journey. If there is a thesis for this entry, I'd say it's something along the lines of '<em>TTGL</em> is basically <em>Paradise Lost</em>, but it's the BAD END version.' Similar works from different toolkits is exactly how I'd put it. I'd also agree that <em>TTGL</em> manages to do a Hero's Journey much more sucessfully because it actually speaks in the mode of myth rather than slavishly following the 'monomyth' pattern. [On a sidenote, I checked an odd referrer from my stats page and discovered that this is at the bottom of the first page if you Google 'critics on rebellion in paradise lost' (no quotation marks). Sorry whoever's trying to write an essay using the internet; may I recommend a good university library, and a copy of Lewis' <em>Preface to Paradise Lost</em> for an outdated but instructive apologetic approach.] The original intention was to demonstrate that pretentious Geasstards can be pretentious about TTGL too. I’m sorry if my use of ‘thesis’ misled you, but everything before the numbered sections was sort of a sideshow – acknowledging your own fine essay and mentioning in passing why I dislike the Hero’s Journey.

If there is a thesis for this entry, I’d say it’s something along the lines of ‘TTGL is basically Paradise Lost, but it’s the BAD END version.’ Similar works from different toolkits is exactly how I’d put it. I’d also agree that TTGL manages to do a Hero’s Journey much more sucessfully because it actually speaks in the mode of myth rather than slavishly following the ‘monomyth’ pattern.

[On a sidenote, I checked an odd referrer from my stats page and discovered that this is at the bottom of the first page if you Google 'critics on rebellion in paradise lost' (no quotation marks). Sorry whoever's trying to write an essay using the internet; may I recommend a good university library, and a copy of Lewis' Preface to Paradise Lost for an outdated but instructive apologetic approach.]

]]> By: DeathToZippermouth http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann-rebellion-perfected/#comment-335 DeathToZippermouth Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:45:13 +0000 http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/?p=83#comment-335 Again, it didn't feel like a rebuttal to the Heroes Journey and more like an alternate literary analysis. Which is still good, it just seemed a little tangential and didn't connect back to the original intention you gave, which was the whole "Joseph Campbell was a Bloody Idiot" thing. There's nothing wrong with holding that belief, and I personally only use the Heroes Journey when I feel it's worth investigating. This is usually me saying that stories that slavishly adhere to it are contrived and dull (See: Eragon, The Matrix). In fact, TTGL is one of the only modern stories I feel does the concept properly, due to its attempting to create a modern myth rather than sticking to the patterns of the monomyth. Similar finished work, different toolkits to do the job. That's what our essays are, and that's why I like yours. Again, it didn’t feel like a rebuttal to the Heroes Journey and more like an alternate literary analysis. Which is still good, it just seemed a little tangential and didn’t connect back to the original intention you gave, which was the whole “Joseph Campbell was a Bloody Idiot” thing. There’s nothing wrong with holding that belief, and I personally only use the Heroes Journey when I feel it’s worth investigating. This is usually me saying that stories that slavishly adhere to it are contrived and dull (See: Eragon, The Matrix). In fact, TTGL is one of the only modern stories I feel does the concept properly, due to its attempting to create a modern myth rather than sticking to the patterns of the monomyth.

Similar finished work, different toolkits to do the job. That’s what our essays are, and that’s why I like yours.

]]> By: Symbology and You: And something about hope too! « orz - SWISS CHEESE PORN http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann-rebellion-perfected/#comment-333 Symbology and You: And something about hope too! « orz - SWISS CHEESE PORN Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:01:44 +0000 http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/?p=83#comment-333 [...] It didn’t really hit me to write this until I read this. [...] [...] It didn’t really hit me to write this until I read this. [...]

]]> By: animanachronism http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann-rebellion-perfected/#comment-330 animanachronism Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:02:39 +0000 http://animanachronism.wordpress.com/?p=83#comment-330 Sorry . . . blogging, like striptease and philosophy, is very much a matter of strategic concealment in lieu of actual <del>revealment</del> revelation. Sorry . . . blogging, like striptease and philosophy, is very much a matter of strategic concealment in lieu of actual revealment revelation.

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