Comments on: Fate/stay notes

By: “Fate:” Owen, IKnight, and Haruki Murakami « Pontifus

“Fate:” Owen, IKnight, and Haruki Murakami « Pontifus — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:57:51 +0000

[...] Like the game itself, I’ll leave it for you to decide. I need to talk about structure before this post gets out of hand. I’ve noticed this before with other visual novels, but here – possibly because the text is ‘in front’ of the images rather than segregated from them – it’s more prominent: the sentence is king. At any given moment there’s never enough text on the screen to build up a really meaty paragraph, which means there’s little opportunity for the constructive, building-block hypotaxis I expect from modern prose. I wonder if it’s fair to call this prose at all – but whatever we’re going to name it, this form of writing relies on the well-tempered sentence. [Emphasis mine] [IKnight, "Fate/stay notes"] [...]

By: Finishing Fate for real « Pontifus

Finishing Fate for real « Pontifus — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:53:56 +0000

[...] three routes. It’s almost certainly the darkest; I read somewhere, I think in the comments to IKnight’s post, that horror is Nasu’s strength, and I can believe it. Where “Unlimited Blade [...]

By: Wanko to Kurasou, or A Postmodern Patrasche » Cruel Angel Theses

Wanko to Kurasou, or A Postmodern Patrasche » Cruel Angel Theses — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:54:22 +0000

[...] written an excellent piece on Fate/stay night’s presentation, and as F/sn is as close to an story eroge as you can get (one with a larger focus on story, as [...]

By: xephfyre

xephfyre — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 01:25:18 +0000

The grain in FS/N (in the Fate route) is more akin to a device rather than the grail of crucifixion in christian legend…somehow that still all worked out for the better though.

Got to give that Nasu his props….ehehe~

By: The Animanachronism

The Animanachronism — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:29:21 +0000

Rereading this post, I see I managed to use ‘I wonder’ three times in three paragraphs’. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF, as they say.

@ Will of the Wisp: Interesting idea. I guess it could plug into the fact that Saber comes from a society in which ‘the chivalry thing’ held sway, hence her being a reverse trap in her original lifetime. At the same time (as you mentioned already) Shirou is a good cook, he gets beaten up a lot when he does try to get into combat (at least until UBW) and he’s the guy with the sheath (not the phallic sword). An unkind writer would call him ‘a feminine man trying to be masculine’ (in traditional terms) or something.

And yeah, making stuff up ftw.

By: Will of the wisp

Will of the wisp — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:24:18 +0000

You could see it as a clash between the old chivalry/samurai values of protecting woman and the more western values of equal oppertunity across genders. In the western world now, the majourity of people don’t consider female fighting strange (female acting in traditionally male-gender activities such as combat is more acceptable (Kail et al., n.d.) ). However, in the game, Shirou obviously presents the traditional Japanese view that woman should not do a job usually meant for male. This has wide implications — he would probably agree, then, that Saber should also not be a doctor or an engineer, two other occupations that people usually consider male’s.

P.S. I haven’t had that much fun making stuff up since high school.

By: The Animanachronism

The Animanachronism — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:00:11 +0000

+4 to Chopping checks.

No, it wasn’t the sheath. I was thinking of the standard ‘ooh it’s from Japan’ approach to anything from Japan, where one decides that the pale, blonde characters (so Saber, in this case, and Gilgamesh, I suppose) represent Foreigners, All Foreigners, and then declare that the whole story is about xenophobia. I don’t find that a very productive way to read things, so I tend to avoid it.

By: Will of the wisp

Will of the wisp — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:17:19 +0000

Western elements? Are you refering to a certain sheath? Uhmmm…. It came from the lady of the lake, so it may have some feminine element to it as well. So Shirou is also a balance between the feminine and the masculine… Wait… Is there anything masculine about him? I get it now! Shirou cooks so well because the scabbord is enchanted to increase one’s cooking skills

By: The Animanachronism

The Animanachronism — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:52:39 +0000

@ Will of the wisp: Hmm. To be really intellectual, I’d discuss how Shirou’s body is constantly in jeopardy or the interaction of ‘Western’ and ‘Japanese’ elements, but I’m not sure I’m intellectual enough for that.

@ Kairu Ishimaru: Well, normal filenames would just be boring.

By: Kairu Ishimaru

Kairu Ishimaru — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:17:19 +0000

http://animanachronism.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/tis-an-insult-to-metaphors-everywhere.jpg?w=425&h=319
I lol’d